HARE KRISHNA. ALL GLORIES TO THE ASSEMBLED DEVOTEES......KE-JAI.
I HAPPENED UPON A WEB SIGHT THAT IS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE TATTVA-VIVEKA IN APPEARANCE, BUT NOT IN CONTENT. I AM ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SITES TO HELP ME CONFIRM IN A POSITVE WAY WHAT I BELIEVE.
I DON'T RECALL HOW FOUND THIS SITE BUT IT IS EX-DEVOTEES AND VAISHNAVA HATERS AND I "COULD NOT BELIEVE THE HATRED AND IGNORANCE COMMING FROM PEOPLE WHO HAD PREVIOWSLY BEEN DEVOTEES. SOME I COULD UNDERSTAQND BECAUSE THE HAD BEEN ABUSED ETC., BUT IN THIS MATERIAL WORLD IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETIMES WE ARE SET UP TO FALL OR FAIL JUST TO GET BACK UP AND BE STRONGER. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW A BELIEVER IN RADHE-KRSNA COULD TURN AWAY.
ANYWAY I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION JUST A COMMENT AT THIS POINT.
I LOVE YOU ALL.
HARE KRSNA
ALL GLORIES TO GURU MAHARAJA.
JOSEPH RAEL OR BHAKTA JOSEPH OR BHAKTI DAS DAS WHICHEVER YOU PREFER
(JUST DON'T CALL ME LATE FOR PRASADAM)
They seem to be very attracted to the subject still, otherwise why spend so many years discussing subject they hate so much? Maybe they got distracted, but Krishna’s is so attractive that they keep engaged anyway. Not exactly anukulyena krsnanusilanam though.
All I can say is watch-out on the net. There is the whole range of conceptions in the name of Guadiya Vaishnavism. Alot of times the conceptual differences may be subtle and we don't yet have the ability to discrimate and might think its Gaudiya Vedanta proper. Granted I haven't paroosed all the sites out there but I think that Tattva Viveka is a pretty comprehensive resource being operated under the direct guidance of a devotee who can discrimate, so although we all put are different conceptions on here there is a final word on issues of philosophy so it's incredibly safer than a lot of these other devotee/ex-devotee/devotee-hater forums. Other than that I think the philosophical explanation of devotees in such a condition is that they have made offenses, and probably alot of these ones on the net have developed a tendency for offenses which will hold them back quite a bit<--(understatement). So many probably had bad experiences and now they wouldn't recognize Krsna Consciousness if it kicked them in the face with it's lotus feet. I pray to never have such circumstances along the path.
I don't see any reason to spend any time on that site, and many others, as well. I interacted there for a little while in the hope that some would see that those of us dedicated to our practice and service aren't just fanatics and nuts. The dominant voices there, however, are those who are bitter for any number of reasons. Even though a few there are old acquaintances who like me, I've chosen to leave them alone and save time for chanting, hearing, and the other aspects of my service.
A Vaisnava hater... I don't think there is any position, label, identification that's worse than this. Talk about worms in the stool... these people are extremely unfortunate.
Jaya Gaura Nitai! Jaya Gaura bhakta-vrnda!