Tattva-viveka

Yoga and Tantra

Yamuna Dasi - December 8, 2008 7:41 am

In Tripurari Maharaja's commentary on Gita we can read:

"Regardless of which path or rung of the ladder of yoga one identifies with, one cannot avoid the spiritual practice involved in controlling the mind and senses."

 

But some authors (I have not read any scriptures on tantra) like Osho say that yoga and tantra, even though completely different and even opposing as directions, reach the same goal - that in yoga going beyond the senses is reached through controlling them, while in tantra the same goal is reached through surrendering to them and in this way crossing their realm and going out of it.

 

Is this a game of words or is it a true practice which can really lead to the same achievement - being beyond the slavery to the mind and senses? Osho's books are very wide spread here and very popular. He is writing in a very powerful way, but even though he is sometimes quoting scriptures, I think he is not following the sidhanta of the scriptures but rather replaces it in a subtle way with his own, different sidhanta. In this way one who is not very well acquainted with the scriptures starts to accept his ideas as the true teaching of the scriptures and as authentic.

 

Can somebody give some light on the path of tantra and it's relation to yoga, please?

What is vaishnava’s attitude to tantra?

Is Shiva preaching and practicing both yoga and tantra?

Swami - December 14, 2008 1:12 pm
In Tripurari Maharaja's commentary on Gita we can read:

"Regardless of which path or rung of the ladder of yoga one identifies with, one cannot avoid the spiritual practice involved in controlling the mind and senses."

 

But some authors (I have not read any scriptures on tantra) like Osho say that yoga and tantra, even though completely different and even opposing as directions, reach the same goal - that in yoga going beyond the senses is reached through controlling them, while in tantra the same goal is reached through surrendering to them and in this way crossing their realm and going out of it.

 

Is this a game of words or is it a true practice which can really lead to the same achievement - being beyond the slavery to the mind and senses? Osho's books are very wide spread here and very popular. He is writing in a very powerful way, but even though he is sometimes quoting scriptures, I think he is not following the sidhanta of the scriptures but rather replaces it in a subtle way with his own, different sidhanta. In this way one who is not very well acquainted with the scriptures starts to accept his ideas as the true teaching of the scriptures and as authentic.

 

Can somebody give some light on the path of tantra and it's relation to yoga, please?

What is vaishnava’s attitude to tantra?

Is Shiva preaching and practicing both yoga and tantra?

 

I think that Osho Rajneesh presents a popularized form of tantra that is meaningless for spiritual advancement. There is a practice in the tantric literature of overindulging in sense experience aimed at creating a catharsis that propels one beyond the attraction for sense objects, but this practice itself is dubious, what to speak of a modern versions of it. The actual system according to the corresponding tantras is quite gruesome and very intense, nothing like that which is proposed by Osho.

 

We also follow the tantras, but these tantras are for sattvic people, such as Gautamiya Tanatra, etc., rather than tamasic tantras for people attracted to the extremes of intoxication, the occult, etc.